In Part Two of this two-part episode of Reasonably Speaking, Sherrilyn Ifill of the NAACP Legal Defense Defense and Educational Fund, Inc., Barry Friedman, New York University Law professor and director of NYU’s Policing Project, and John Malcolm of the Heritage Foundation explore the intersection of race and policing in the United States. Part Two addresses predictive policing, funding priorities, and working toward a solution. Part One looked at the history of race and policing, training programs, and police as first responders.

Listen as these experts, who currently are on the front lines (an advocate and civil rights lawyer, a civil liberties lawyer whose current work is with communities and police departments, and the director of a think tank tasked with increasing government officials’, the media’s, and the public’s understanding of the Constitution and the rule of law), discuss new policing technologies, as well as new theories about public policy that may help shape the future of race and policing.

John Malcolm

The Heritage Foundation

John G. Malcolm oversees The Heritage Foundation’s work to increase understanding of the Constitution and the rule of law as director of the think tank’s Edwin Meese III Center for Legal and Judicial Studies. Malcolm, who also is Heritage’s Ed Gilbertson and Sherry Lindberg Gilbertson senior legal fellow, brings to the challenge a wealth of legal expertise and experience in both the public and private sectors. Before being named director of the Meese Center in July 2013, Malcolm spearheaded the center’s rule of law programs. His research and writing as senior legal fellow focused on criminal law, immigration, national security, religious liberty and intellectual property.

Sherrilyn Ifill

NAACP Legal Defense and Educational Fund

Sherrilyn Ifill is the seventh President and Director-Counsel of the NAACP Legal Defense and Educational Fund, Inc. Sherrilyn is a long-time member of the LDF family. After graduating law school, she served first as a fellow at the American Civil Liberties Union and then for five years as an assistant counsel in LDF’s New York office, where she litigated voting rights cases.  Among her successful litigation was the landmark Voting Rights Act case Houston Lawyers’ Association vs. Attorney General of Texas, in which the Supreme Court held that judicial elections are covered by the provisions of section 2 of the Voting Rights Act. 

Barry Friedman

Reporter, Policing Principles

Barry Friedman is the Jacob D. Fuchsberg Professor of Law and Affiliated Professor of Politics at NYU Law.  He is one of the country’s leading authorities on constitutional law, policing, criminal procedure, and the federal courts. He is the author of the critically-acclaimed The Will of the People: How Public Opinion Has Influenced the Supreme Court and Shaped the Meaning of the Constitution (2009), and the forthcoming book on policing and the Constitution, Unwarranted: Policing without Permission(February 2017). He is the founding director of NYU Law’s Policing Project.


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